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sveetzara · V I P Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 9927 Location: US

i will say that this is all about politics... every government is responsible for these attacks... and now no1 can stop me to say that our governments r involve in these attacks....

i m sad about the attacks in india coz many people lost their lives... as a muslim, pakistani & human i feel very sad over the deaths of innocent people, even though they were non muslims... i swear muje itna hi dukh hota hai jitna muje pakistan k liye hota hai, kiun k insaan to insaan hain na..... or wesey b aaj sey 10 yrs pehley tak atleast asian countries me peace to tha na????????? kia aap is baat ko maantey hain ya nahi????

use ur owm mind....fact is fact no1 can change it... neither media nor our politicians....

Muffy · Commodore Joined: 19 Sep 2008 Posts: 681

This is not about a particular group of people. Zara I totally understand what you are trying to say. No one in fact commented negatively.
You have said so many things boldly. Well, then even others have opinions but they have limited themselves not to comment. I'd say that this is a fact that almost all the terrorist groups in this world have Muslims as their workers. This is an open truth. However, no one is blaming a "Muslim" for that matter of fact.
Even as an individual I would never condemn a Muslim being a part of a terrorism. I would say that they do not have a religion. But things have gone so worse that this belief that they do not have a religion does not hold good!!
For example, Al-Qaeda, when attacked the World Trade Center in New York, had clearly stated that this act was FOR ALLAH. Now, how can one deal with this?
Recently in Karnataka, India, in places like Bangaluru and other cities, there was a horrible attack on the Christians where churches were destroyed and people were killed. When asked the reason behind this, they said that only Hindus can live here and this was not the place for anyone else!!

After the bomb blasts in several places in India including Delhi, there was a debate question that was popularly doing its rounds in the country. To my shock, you know what the question was - it was - "WILL TERRORISM STOP, IF THE WHOLE WORLD CONVERTS TO ISLAM"

Muffy · Commodore Joined: 19 Sep 2008 Posts: 681

This world has gone too worse for a man to live in without peace. There is no safety for anyone. We, sitting at home, or working in the office, are so unaware of the things going around, that we cannot do anything but just feel sorry for those who have been the victims. Here in Nidos, at least I know that no one is playing a blame game.
We should in fact try to make this world a better place to live in...

sunnyajmal · V I P Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 8649 Location: Hearts

I must say that a Muslim can't do such Bashful things.. and am fully agree with Zara... all of them are the others who want to create and keep distances between India and Pakistan...

Muffy · Commodore Joined: 19 Sep 2008 Posts: 681

Well Sunny get my point... no one is blaming a Muslim!! I disagree with a lot of things that Zara said...

sveetzara · V I P Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 9927 Location: US

i disagree with ur statement "For example, Al-Qaeda, when attacked the World Trade Center in New York, had clearly stated that this act was FOR ALLAH."

i havent read such a bold state in these 8 yrs... u will have to prove that.... we all know who did it.... and i wont say anything here just bcoz i want to live in this world... and bcz i m not here to hurt any1 belonging to any religion...

forumadmin · Admin Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 838

i agree with zara. and i will add some from my side.

first of all i agree that muslims are involved in such activities .. as well as any other community.

but 2nd thing is that you have to admit that whatever terrorism happens , if officials have no clue , or some body questions an indian minister , he will certainly name pakistan or muslims. and until the case is not solved , they are blamed again and again.

i have 2 solid examples which no body can deny.

1) remember the gujrat riots , it happened due to the blame on muslim group , that it fired a train having hindu passengers. without any investigation media and goverment started blaming indian muslims. Riots started and i dont know how many muslims were killed. and when investigation reports came, it was found that "it was only an accident"

2) Samjhota express , a train which was started between indian pakistan was blasted once, when it was coming back to pakistan. first blame was pakistan. and now the real story is on the news that an extremist hindu group was behind it and a high level official of raw was also helping them.

and now the mumbai case. the media and indian govt. is blaming that some people came on boats and with local support they have done these things.

i again condemn whatever happened in mumbai , and i am hopeful that this time indian media and government should investigate first and then it should blame someone.

sveetzara · V I P Joined: 10 Apr 2008 Posts: 9927 Location: US

i dont think so k indian security staff were sleeping that they cant stop those people who came through boats.... infact just nothing... i feel extremly soory for the innocent people... but on the other side when indian gov is blaming pakistan then i feel sad for my country.....

Admin i have criticised u alot in this thread... coz i cant help doing so... u know jab izat ki baat hoti to koi chup nahi reh sakta even a girl....

jugnoo · Posted: November 29 2008 Post subject:

Ist of all - let me CONDEMN what has haapened in mumbai ... to me it feels like it has happened in karachi.

I totaly agree with Zara that we should not be so apologetic without knowing the fact that who is involved in these inhuman, cowardly acts and offcourse what their motives and reasons are for doin' so.

I wonder where this media propganda is gonna take us - to me it is just the filthy politics and has nothing to do with religion and don't forget Pakistan is the only country which has been suffering more than any1 in this so called war.

I know its the nasty way of saying this but this could be an opportunity to get united and pls don't make it even worse by fighting and making BAD people's wishes come true. Let pray about the innocent peoples died in these attacks and hope sanity should prevail.

forumadmin · Admin Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 838

i have no problem , during a discussion i am a member as any other forum member in this group.

As a Pakistani , i admit that in Pakistan anybody who has some money , can produce a terrorist due to these 3 factors

1) due to poor financial conditions
2) unjust judicial system
3) Less or no knowledge of Basic teachings of Islam

Some terrorists which were involved in bomb blasts in Pakistan were arrested and they confessed that they were going for suicide attack , and they were doing it for better financial conditions of their family and as well as for "Jannat". As they were motivated by some Organization. that after suicider's death , the organization will take care of his family and and he will go into Jannat because he is killing people for a good cause. (which has no link with Islam , but the suicider accepts it as a reality)

as i mentioned in point 1 and 3

Similarly the wrong decision of bombing LAAL MASJID in Pakistan produced a small army of suicide attackers , because a lot of innocent people were killed in this operation. due to this unjust operation , these people become terrorist.

so these factors move people towards terrorism or extremism and then they meet some "MOTIVATORS" (who may not be working for the interest of Pakistan but for some other country) who motivate them , provide them financial assistance and require arms.

Infact In Baloochistan , during an operation against Balooch Liberation Army , Hundreds of thousand of dollars were found in a cave, who were giving them so much fund ? who want to occupy baloochistan , a lot of people blame america for that.

similarly , in Northern areas of Pakistan , In WANA where my friend fights against extremists (as Pakistan Army 2nd LT.) , told me that we found arms from them which are not Pak Made. (May be a lot of Pakistani brothers know that in northern areas , arms are made locally , has a very good quality , and availability. )
here again , who are providing them foreign made arms? and explosive material and funds for that?

so i will say that behind all this scene , there are some forces , which don't belong to Pakistan and working against the stability of Pakistan.

jugnoo · Posted: November 29 2008 Post subject:

u r rite bro....

I've also heard, in remote tribal areas some unknown organization has been adopting under 10 children for so long and God knows for what reasons.

Social moral and economical injuctice, religious intolerence, corruption, misunderstandings, lack of unity has provided others an opportunity to take advantage of the situation.

PS: Zara come down dear ... u see even some of my indian ausie friends don't believe in this funny boat story because when a poor fisherman can be caught for just mistakenly violating sea borders so how come so many peoples armed with sophisticated weapon managed to enter all the way through ? BIG QUESTION ?

anyway whatever this sh*t politics is ... Innocent peoples are killed for nothing .. sadddddddd

Muffy · Commodore Joined: 19 Sep 2008 Posts: 681

To prove about Zara has asked, well, i dont need to prove it when I heard that on tv, and not only about WTC, but I heard this many times.. if you want proof, you can google it or even look in investigation forums. By the way, i saw the report on Discovery Channel.

At this point, I want to tell that Zara, you might not be in a -ve opinion. I agree with forum that he said that the people involved are not that educated like you and I are!!

They certainly do lack knowledge... I understand you Zara... Time for you to understand us..

sathika · Ensign Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 116 Location: Colombo

This is endless muffy, if we start to talk about this kind of a tpoic, it will not endup even after another weeks time. as this type of things are really touching hearts.

fun4ever · Commodore Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 665 Location: sun

It is not any religion like islam or hinduism or between India and Pakistan.
there are crazy people out there who are made up of stones n kill people for no reason-they are saddists.
being a hindu i dont agree to the fact that muslims attack n create terror.only selfish n senseless people in this world kill innocents.
there is only one Power for all of us...we call him by different names-God,Vishnu,Shiva,Allah,Christ...
in this 21st century if we care about religion n to castes no growth and development will take place.
Once US was hit,then UK,then NOW it is India and tomorrow some other country will be attcaked by terrorism.
There is only one way to curb terrorism...we should be united.
we may belong to different countries,states,religions,societies...but now there is an international struggle and it is upto people like us to stand united and fight against the terrorists...

sathika · Ensign Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 116 Location: Colombo

Yes i'm 100% agree with you Fun4ever.........

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Terror attacks in Mumbai; 80 dead, over 900 injured